Out of Curiosity…

We’re supposed to believe that no matter what Bush’s approval rating is, it’s the lowest ever.

One day it’s 40%-Lowest rating ever.

The next day it’s 34% (nevermind the heavy weight on libs) – Lowest rating ever.

Then the next day, it’s 41%-Lowest rating ever.

WTF? So which is it? No matter how it changes, it’s always the lowest rating ever. Is this more Million Man Math? Or is it more of that “progressive” education which dictates that no matter what your answer, you won’t be wrong because that might hurt your feelings?

Can anybody explain this?

 

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19 Comments on “Out of Curiosity…”

  1. Kendall Says:

    I love the way you play with information, it really is funny! As you know the current President is regarded as one of the worst in history! Maybe a blow-job would actually HELP his popularity!

    Anyway to answer your question, as you also know each of these polls is different, so his continuing slide in popularity and support has nothing to do with the “liberal” media and has nothing to do with any type of liberal consipiracy…it simply has to do with failed policies by a failed Presidency….plain and simple!

    Happy to have been of assistance in answering your questions!

  2. GayCowboyBob Says:

    It’s pretty simple. They’re referring to each individual poll. For example, if it’s CBS’s poll then when they say “lowest approval rating yet” they’re actually referring to that particular poll.

    So in essence, Bush’s figures are actually the lowest in a MULTITUDE of polls. Not just one or overall.

    I hope that clears things up.


  3. Nice spin, guys. Whatever creams your twinkies.

  4. Howard Says:

    Thanks again Rob for confirming your charter membership in the Flat Earth Society. The group for whom facts mean nothing.

  5. GayCowboyBob Says:

    I don’t like twinkies. Empty calories and such. I much prefer some manly protein.

  6. Tom Says:

    Libs lie. Simple as that. They can’t help themselves.


  7. “As you know the current President is regarded as one of the worst in history!”

    By who? I only hear extremists say that one — the same type that would have said that about Lincoln. But y’all probably enjoy seeing the oppression Afghani women and the legal murder of the “wrong” type of Muslim in Iraq anyway. Seriously, even the majority of the people who are not completely satisfied with Bush’s presidency (and that includes many conservatives) don’t go so far as to say he’s one of the worst presidents in history — the quote is a very misleading statement. For the sake of honesty, please qualify it by adding: “by radical left-wingers who don’t represent anyone with their head screwed on” next time.

    “each of these polls is different” also doesn’t make “President Bush is suffering his lowest approval ratings” any more honest either. If they have to seek out a different poll each time so that they can continue repeating the headline that’ll bring in the ratings or make them feel good, it brings up serious questions as to the integrity of the reporting going on (as well as the accuracy of the polls).

    Also, one poll saying he has the lowest approval ratings now, and another having said it last week does not constitute a “MULTITUDE of polls” saying it at the present. Like TGC said, nice spin guys. Try not to clear things up by smearing exaggerations over the facts next time…


  8. Also, the supposedly “conservative” media keeps having to fabricate polls so they can manipulate opinion.
    The fact that you two are allowing yourselves to be manipulated by Big Media doesn’t say much about you.

  9. Howard Says:

    All this puffery about the polls misses the bigger issue. The American people no longer trust George Bush. When he says “Trust me” regarding the ports thing, the people said clearly, “No way.” Personally I think it’s a sad example of xenophobia run amok, but it also reveals a turning point.

    Bush has used the terror attacks every chance he can to say he knows best what needs to be done to protect the country. And until now, the American people have stood with him. They don’t believe him any longer. Just about every poll I’ve heard about or read says that 60% of Americans believe the Iraq war wasn’t worth fighting. Large majorities now say that they trust Democrats more than Republicans on national security issues. I doubt that will translate into votes come November, but at least two polls I know of are saying that, including one from the Wall Street Journal, no bastion of liberalism last time I checked.

    You conservatives can quibble about what Bush’s poll numbers mean, how low they are, until you turn blue (or should I say red?). But facts are hard to argue with. Liberals made the mistake of accusing their fellow Americans of being “stupid” after the 2004 elections. You know what good that did. Don’t make the same mistake. Americans have awakened from the nightmare Bush foisted on us.

    I really find it hard to believe that more conservatives aren’t rioting because of the way Bush has made a mockery of conversative principles. And you don’t have to be a conservative to see it, either.


  10. “Large majorities now say that they trust Democrats more than Republicans on national security issues.”

    I seriously doubt that, but with a lot of the rest of your post I have to agree. I don’t think most conservatives trust Bush completely with national security — that’s why the ports deal met with such opposition. That’s why there’s so much discontent with Bush’s stands on illegal immigration. We still think he’s done a lot better than Kerry (or most other Democrats) would have.

    “I really find it hard to believe that more conservatives aren’t rioting because of the way Bush has made a mockery of conversative principles.”

    You and I have both already made the point that conservatives are upset with Bush’s incompleteness on national security. I don’t know where you’d get the idea that we’d riot, though — that’s more of a liberal’s means of expression.


  11. Just about every poll I’ve heard about or read says that 60% of Americans believe the Iraq war wasn’t worth fighting. Large majorities now say that they trust Democrats more than Republicans on national security issues.

    Well no shit Sherlock. When a liberal newspaper, whose approval ratings are further in the tank than Bush (but they won’t tell you that) only polls liberals, what the FUCK do you expect??

    Bush has used the terror attacks every chance he can to say he knows best what needs to be done to protect the country.

    And the liberal fucktards in this country have mocked him every step of the way. Clearly you are part of the crowd that wants to blame Bush for the xenophobia. I say BULLSHIT. What on God’s green earth have the liberals done that should convince us that they give two shits about me and you?

    The libs have been mocking Bush over and playing games with national security for years now. They played with the Patirot Act, they’re playing with the NSA surveilance deal, they played games with the Port Snort, they’ve done their damndest to convince us that we deserved the 9/11 attacks and that Bush is the true enemy of the country and they seriously want us to believe that they give a flying fuck about national security? Don’t make me laugh.

  12. Howard Says:

    Typical, Rob. You don’t like the results of national polls, so you blame the newspapers that conducted them. That’s the definition of an idealogue: someone who edits reality to fit his worldview. You’re not just a member of the Flat Earth Society. You’re the president.

    I’m not blaming Bush for xenophobia, although that has been a game traditionally played by Republicans. I blame ignorant, ill-informed Americans for being xenophobic. I blame Bush for his incompetence. His administration ran a well-oiled machine in his first term, but since his reelection, he can’t find his way out of a paper bag. Had his advisors done a better job of reminding the public of what is already a well-functioning situation–something like 60% of American ports are run very successfully by foreign-owned management companies–this mess could have been avoided. Now Democratic demagogues are exploiting the issue handed to them on a silver platter.

    (I for one am happy Dems finally have an issue they agree on, and hope they can levarage it all the way to recapturing the House in 2006. Then we’ll have a serious debate about lot of important issues, such as Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, NSA spying, Katrina, WMD, the war, et al, all of which the Repub majority has stiffled).

    You’re absolutely right about liberals mocking Bush. Get used to it. Liberals aren’t alone in their dismay and disgust. Plenty of Repubs, independents and moderates feel the same way.


  13. The problem, Howard, is that all liberals do is feel disgust for Bush. You want discussion about important issues, it’s the Republicans, independents, and sometimes moderates that are doing the discussing. Liberals may scream out about their disgust and hypocritically decry the so-called “culture of corruption,” but as much as Bush is distrusted, they’re held in even lower esteem.

    The Democrats future in the house isn’t looking to bright simply because they’re not productive at all. They whine and moan — the Republicans can piss off their base, but they still have the advantage of at least faking an interest in taking care of their country. Thus we won’t mock Bush, but we will hail his strengths and criticize his weaknesses. The best presidents weren’t popular in their own days — only the useless (e.g. BJ) had that convenience.


  14. (I for one am happy Dems finally have an issue they agree on, and hope they can levarage it all the way to recapturing the House in 2006. Then we’ll have a serious debate about lot of important issues, such as Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, NSA spying, Katrina, WMD, the war, et al, all of which the Repub majority has stiffled).

    Are you nucking futs? The libs couldn’t give two shits about serious debate OR national security. They haven’t given a damn about “serious debate” about Club G’itmo, NSA, Abu Ghraib, etc. Why the hell should I believe that they’d give a damn about serious debate now? Besides, if they were actually interested in “serious debate”, they’d have to admit that they’ve been lying for years and they sure as hell aren’t about to do that.

    As far as a Republican majority stifling “serious debate”, don’t make me laugh. There’s nothing to stifle when the liberals aren’t interested in engaging in it. The libs want to lie and play games and hope like hell YOU are too fucking stupid to see what they’re doing so you’ll vote for them. That’s the kind of contempt they have for you.

  15. Howard Says:

    Funny, Rob, but I was listening to the president at his press conference today (on C-SPAN; is that liberal too?). When a reporter asked him when he would make a decision about bringing the troops home, he said (paraphrasing) that he’d wait until his generals in the field told him it was time. He said it would be up to the generals.

    Two new books out just recently, written by American soldiers and Iraq-war veterans, both take issue with how the war is being fought precisely because they accuse the president and his administration of micro-managing the war from DC; of NOT allowing the generals to make the decisions. And that those military leaders who have challenged Rumsfeld and the administration have been removed or re-posted.

    This is just the tip of the iceburg. And one reason why so many Dems running for Congress this year are Iraq-war vets.

    If you want to continue your ranting against liberals, be my guest. They’re the least of my worries.

    There are a few serious Dems out there, and some Repubs awakening from the Bush-induced nightmare, who want more answers than they administration has been willing to pony up. The day of reckoning will come sooner or later.


  16. and some Repubs awakening from the Bush-induced nightmare, who want more answers than they administration has been willing to pony up.

    You ARE aware that it’s an election year, aren’t you?

  17. Howard Says:

    I’m inclined to simply ask what you mean by this pithy reply, hoping you’ll give us your “good day sir” kiss-off and thereby show the world that when you’ve reached the point of intellectual vapidness, you walk away.

    Instead, let me say this: do you mean, Rob, that anything published in 2006 that denigrates your beloved prez, that challenges your view of the world, that doesn’t fit easily into your rose-colored reality, is not possibly credible because it happens to be an election year? Are you that cynical? My, how convenient. You really do edit reality to fit your fantasy. I can’t thank you enough for proving my point for me: you are an idealogue.

    Where I come from, we call this being in serious denial.


  18. No. You know what I mean.

    However, the idealogue in you won’t believe in it no matter what. You’ve got your dishonest agenda and you’ll be damned if anybody pisses in your Cheerios.

  19. Howard Says:

    I don’t have an agenda, Rob. Believe it or not. And I don’t really believe you’re an idealogue either, the truth be told. You just do a very good impersonation of one.

    Yes, of course I knew what you meant, and you knew what I meant. We both know what we mean and what the other meant. But sometimes we don’t talk directly to each other. This blogging thing makes it very easy to espouse your viewpoint and to hell with the other guy. Sometimes that’s a lot of fun. But not much gets accomplished.

    You’d be surprised, though, at how often I can be persuaded to change my mind. If you can make a cogent argument. And it makes sense. I used to be a lot more liberal than I am now, but time and getting older have changed me. I’m not as “tolerant” as I used to be in some things.

    Anyway, I don’t like Cheerios much. But I do like you, especially when you don’t swear. You just have some very crazy ideas, is all.


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